(;CA[utf-8]ST[2]RU[Japanese]OT[10x60 byo-yomi]GM[1]AP[CGoban:3]SZ[19]FF[4]DT[2011-08-05]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http\://www.gokgs.com/]PB[ChemBoy613]PW[Edisson]KM[6.5]
TM[2400]RE[W+Resign]MULTIGOGM[1]
;B[qd]BL[2336.05];W[dp]WL[2392.39];B[pq]BL[2324.5];W[dc]WL[2387.38];B[de]BL[2314.52]
;W[dg]WL[2351.58];B[fe]BL[2309.72]
(;W[ce]WL[2321.31];B[cf]BL[2295.37];W[df]WL[2309.08];B[cd]BL[2286.72];W[dd]WL[2304.81]
;B[be]BL[2226.68];W[ee]WL[2299.53];B[ce]BL[2193.36];W[ed]WL[2288.25];B[ef]BL[2189.56]
;W[cc]WL[2277.06];B[ch]BL[2184.4];W[ff]WL[2273.13];B[eg]BL[2180.91];W[ge]WL[2269.61]
;B[eh]BL[2162.03]
(;W[od]WL[2264.8];B[mc]BL[2159.26]C[Pincer was expected.];W[qc]WL[2261.93];B[pc]
BL[2149.44];W[pd]WL[2259.38];B[oc]BL[2147.6];W[nc]WL[2255.28];B[nd]BL[2146.11];W[nb]
WL[2246.96];B[qb]BL[2140.57];W[rc]WL[2244.24];B[ob]BL[2137.28]
(;W[mb]WL[2181.57]C[White resists.];B[qe]BL[2057.34];W[pf]WL[2164.16];B[rb]BL[2049.86]
;W[lc]WL[2152.95];B[md]BL[2011.84];W[ld]WL[2134.26];B[mf]BL[1978.43];W[pe]WL[2054.03]
;B[le]BL[1959.87]
(;W[ke]WL[2035.35];B[kd]BL[1932.53];W[kc]WL[2022.5];B[jd]BL[1930.03];W[je]WL[2021.24]
;B[jc]BL[1927.82];W[jb]WL[2018.98];B[ib]BL[1925.6];W[oa]WL[2012.61];B[pb]BL[1921.76]
(;W[qf]WL[2011.3];B[lb]BL[1909.7];W[pj]WL[1954.43];B[qo]BL[1868.47]C[White got the short stick here. Conclusion\: A two-space kakari would probably be better.]
;W[kb]WL[1941.07];B[la]BL[1865.2];W[lf]WL[1939.8];B[me]BL[1862.46];W[mg]WL[1938.53]
;B[kf]BL[1854.65];W[lg]WL[1934.45];B[ie]BL[1852.62];W[jf]WL[1933.01];B[if]BL[1851.74]
;W[jg]WL[1932.31];B[na]BL[1846.92];W[id]WL[1927.7];B[ic]BL[1844.61];W[hd]WL[1926.44]
(;B[ig]BL[1843.41];W[jp]WL[1877];B[jh]BL[1834.56];W[kg]WL[1870.51];B[cn]BL[1829.74]
;W[dn]WL[1849.22];B[dm]BL[1824.8];W[en]WL[1846.8];B[cq]BL[1822.92];W[co]WL[1839.81]
;B[er]BL[1797.65];W[cm]WL[1835.24];B[gq]BL[1795.69];W[hh]WL[1822.9];B[lq]BL[1788.66]
;W[jr]WL[1819.49]
(;B[go]BL[1779.62];W[nq]WL[1816.24];B[mq]BL[1775.21];W[np]WL[1813.62];B[lo]BL[1773.99]
;W[qq]WL[1812.52];B[qp]BL[1769.03];W[pp]WL[1811.29];B[qr]BL[1762.96];W[jn]WL[1806.92]
;B[lm]BL[1759.33];W[nn]WL[1793.45]C[Black got a weakness exploited here];B[pm]BL[1753.72]
;W[nl]WL[1790.33];B[lk]BL[1749.34];W[kn]WL[1776.67];B[ln]BL[1746.29];W[jk]WL[1773.85]
;B[jl]BL[1740.24];W[kl]WL[1769.71];B[km]BL[1736.39];W[jm]WL[1768.29];B[il]BL[1734.43]
;W[kk]WL[1767.11];B[nr]BL[1722.57];W[or]WL[1758.65];B[mr]BL[1709.37];W[oq]WL[1755.66]
;B[pr]BL[1699.65];W[os]WL[1747.3];B[ll]BL[1696.01];W[hm]WL[1735.37];B[kj]BL[1683.66]
;W[jj]WL[1725.4];B[ji]BL[1680.05];W[ki]WL[1714.96];B[lj]BL[1676.47];W[hk]WL[1699.16]
;B[ik]BL[1664.29];W[ij]WL[1696.52];B[hj]BL[1663.22];W[ii]WL[1695.22];B[hl]BL[1658.35]
;W[gl]WL[1683.05];B[gk]BL[1656.79];W[im]WL[1682.03];B[hk]BL[1654.8];W[ih]WL[1667.96]
;B[fl]BL[1651.18];W[gm]WL[1660.18];B[ek]BL[1648.4];W[fm]WL[1654.78];B[ok]BL[1642.95]
;W[nk]WL[1652.68];B[nj]BL[1640.95];W[ol]WL[1650.54];B[pl]BL[1634.38];W[oj]WL[1648.51]
;B[pk]BL[1631.2];W[mj]WL[1647.51];B[ni]BL[1627.63];W[mi]WL[1640.44];B[li]BL[1623.58]
;W[nh]WL[1620.87];B[mk]BL[1620.29];W[oi]WL[1618.45];B[on]BL[1617.85];W[oo]WL[1601.34]
;B[nm]BL[1606.97];W[om]WL[1599.09]C[After the kill no chance for black anymore.]
;B[mm]BL[1604.63];W[pn]WL[1597.7];B[qn]BL[1600.75];W[qk]WL[1582.27];B[gf]BL[1589.06]
;W[fd]WL[1558.49];B[gg]BL[1583.07];W[kh]WL[1550.59];B[bn]BL[1577.99];W[bo]WL[1545.64]
;B[bm]BL[1575.28];W[cl]WL[1544.63];B[bl]BL[1573.72];W[ck]WL[1543.14];B[bk]BL[1571.62]
;W[el]WL[1524.72];B[fk]BL[1562.28];W[rr]WL[1509.59];B[rq]BL[1549.6];W[qs]WL[1507.52]
;B[sr]BL[1543.21];W[rs]WL[1506.33];B[rl]BL[1541.41];W[rk]WL[1502.77];B[ql]BL[1539.33]
;W[cj]WL[1489.08];B[bj]BL[1531.61];W[di]WL[1484.22];B[ci]BL[1523.16];W[dj]WL[1451.75]
;B[dh]BL[1507.73];W[hb]WL[1449.41];B[ja]BL[1503.72]C[hellsflame [3k\]\: um...
hellsflame [3k\]\: f11?
]
;W[fp]WL[1413.95];B[gp]BL[1497.32];W[dr]WL[1407.49];B[dq]BL[1494.18];W[eq]WL[1406.49]
;B[fq]BL[1489.28];W[ep]WL[1404.71];B[cr]BL[1488.12]C[hellsflame [3k\]\: ah... e11 will threaten capture nevermind
]
;W[fi]WL[1387.55];B[ei]BL[1473.11];W[ej]WL[1377.55];B[fj]BL[1471.05];W[dl]WL[1368.84]
;B[gi]BL[1465.96];W[hr]WL[1337.76];B[gr]BL[1456.04];W[re]WL[1311.24];B[sc]BL[1447.45]
;W[rd]WL[1304.99];B[bc]BL[1443.52];W[hc]WL[1302.66];B[ka]BL[1438.26];W[bb]WL[1301.71]
;B[ab]BL[1435.4];W[ba]WL[1299.89];B[sk]BL[1433.94];W[rj]WL[1293.63];B[sj]BL[1430.1]
;W[si]WL[1292.84];B[sl]BL[1428.37];W[ri]WL[1292.24];B[ha]BL[1425.97];W[fb]WL[1289.8]
;B[fa]BL[1422.29];W[ea]WL[1287.84];B[ga]BL[1418.47];W[gb]WL[1287];B[ia]BL[1417.55]
;W[ar]WL[1239.85];B[bp]BL[1407.34];W[ap]WL[1238.03];B[br]BL[1402.15];W[cp]WL[1225.53]
;B[bq]BL[1398.94];W[aq]WL[1223.43];B[fn]BL[1373.86];W[fo]WL[1217.15];B[iq]BL[1370.21]
;W[jq]WL[1209.33];B[ir]BL[1365.23];W[ip]WL[1196.35];B[hq]BL[1361];W[ps]WL[1192.59]
;B[qq]BL[1356.68];W[ho]WL[1170.75];B[js]BL[1346.79];W[kr]WL[1146.74];B[ks]BL[1342.2]
;W[ls]WL[1146.13];B[is]BL[1339.57];W[lr]WL[1145.46];B[gn]BL[1332.9];W[nf]WL[1137.82]
;B[ko]BL[1326.51];W[hn]WL[1125.44];B[ac]BL[1309.62];W[bs]WL[1105.81];B[ds]BL[1304.12]
;W[po]WL[1097.4];B[da]BL[1299.2];W[eb]WL[1091.56];B[cb]BL[1297.53];W[db]WL[1090.21]
;B[fg]BL[1285.48];W[sd]WL[1083.1];B[sb]BL[1282.18];W[gh]WL[1080.79];B[fh]BL[1279.84]
;W[fe]WL[1076.36];B[an]BL[1269.77];W[ao]WL[1073.43];B[sq]BL[1267.54];W[ne]WL[1070.59]
;B[hg]BL[1255.92];W[he]WL[1064.48];B[cs]BL[1247.52];W[as]WL[1059.26];B[hp]BL[1241.11]
;W[em]WL[1050.26];B[aa]BL[1236.33];W[ca]WL[1047.92];B[hi]BL[1228.73];W[dk]WL[1037.77]
;B[]BL[1228.72];W[]WL[1037.77]TB[sa][rm][ma][oa][pa][qa][ra][jb][kb][mb][nb][kc]
[lc][nc][ad][bd][ld][ae][af][bf][df][ag][bg][cg][dg][ah][bh][ai][bi][fi][aj][gj]
[ak][al][am][qm][sm][rn][sn][ro][so][rp][sp][dr][fr][hr][es][fs][gs][hs]TW[do][eo]
[io][jo][ko][lo][mo][no][kp][sf][mp][op][kq][lq][mq][mr][nr][ms][ns][da][cb][ec]
[fc][gc][lp][gd][qd][oe][qe][se][kf][of][rf][ng][og][pg][qg][rg][sg][jh][lh][mh]
[oh][ph][qh][rh][sh][ji][li][ni][pi][qi][kj][lj][mm][nj][qj][lk][mk][ll][ml][dm]
[km][lm][nm][in][ln][mn][on])
(;B[lo]C[Box shape on this side?
Next r8 for black?]))
(;B[jq]C[As white is quite alive on both sides of the cutting stones i'd tenuki.]))
(;W[kb];B[la];W[lb];B[ic];W[qf]))
(;W[jd];B[ke];W[qf];B[kd];W[kc];B[jc];W[jb];B[ic];W[ib];B[hc];W[oa];B[pb];W[hb]
;B[gc];W[fc];B[gb];W[re];B[kb];W[lb];B[ka]C[Still no good result for white.]))
(;W[qe];B[mb];W[ne];B[md]C[This joseki will be bad for white.]))
(;W[nd]C[What about approaching with a two space kakari? An effective pincer seems not possible right now.]))
(;W[fc];B[cc];W[cb];B[cd];W[eb];B[cg];W[ch];B[dh]C[Modern joseki. 21st century openings by Kim Sung-rae 8dan professional]))
PC[The KGS Go Server at http\://www.gokgs.com/]PB[ChemBoy613]PW[Edisson]KM[6.5]
TM[2400]RE[W+Resign]MULTIGOGM[1]
;B[qd]BL[2336.05];W[dp]WL[2392.39];B[pq]BL[2324.5];W[dc]WL[2387.38];B[de]BL[2314.52]
;W[dg]WL[2351.58];B[fe]BL[2309.72]
(;W[ce]WL[2321.31];B[cf]BL[2295.37];W[df]WL[2309.08];B[cd]BL[2286.72];W[dd]WL[2304.81]
;B[be]BL[2226.68];W[ee]WL[2299.53];B[ce]BL[2193.36];W[ed]WL[2288.25];B[ef]BL[2189.56]
;W[cc]WL[2277.06];B[ch]BL[2184.4];W[ff]WL[2273.13];B[eg]BL[2180.91];W[ge]WL[2269.61]
;B[eh]BL[2162.03]
(;W[od]WL[2264.8];B[mc]BL[2159.26]C[Pincer was expected.];W[qc]WL[2261.93];B[pc]
BL[2149.44];W[pd]WL[2259.38];B[oc]BL[2147.6];W[nc]WL[2255.28];B[nd]BL[2146.11];W[nb]
WL[2246.96];B[qb]BL[2140.57];W[rc]WL[2244.24];B[ob]BL[2137.28]
(;W[mb]WL[2181.57]C[White resists.];B[qe]BL[2057.34];W[pf]WL[2164.16];B[rb]BL[2049.86]
;W[lc]WL[2152.95];B[md]BL[2011.84];W[ld]WL[2134.26];B[mf]BL[1978.43];W[pe]WL[2054.03]
;B[le]BL[1959.87]
(;W[ke]WL[2035.35];B[kd]BL[1932.53];W[kc]WL[2022.5];B[jd]BL[1930.03];W[je]WL[2021.24]
;B[jc]BL[1927.82];W[jb]WL[2018.98];B[ib]BL[1925.6];W[oa]WL[2012.61];B[pb]BL[1921.76]
(;W[qf]WL[2011.3];B[lb]BL[1909.7];W[pj]WL[1954.43];B[qo]BL[1868.47]C[White got the short stick here. Conclusion\: A two-space kakari would probably be better.]
;W[kb]WL[1941.07];B[la]BL[1865.2];W[lf]WL[1939.8];B[me]BL[1862.46];W[mg]WL[1938.53]
;B[kf]BL[1854.65];W[lg]WL[1934.45];B[ie]BL[1852.62];W[jf]WL[1933.01];B[if]BL[1851.74]
;W[jg]WL[1932.31];B[na]BL[1846.92];W[id]WL[1927.7];B[ic]BL[1844.61];W[hd]WL[1926.44]
(;B[ig]BL[1843.41];W[jp]WL[1877];B[jh]BL[1834.56];W[kg]WL[1870.51];B[cn]BL[1829.74]
;W[dn]WL[1849.22];B[dm]BL[1824.8];W[en]WL[1846.8];B[cq]BL[1822.92];W[co]WL[1839.81]
;B[er]BL[1797.65];W[cm]WL[1835.24];B[gq]BL[1795.69];W[hh]WL[1822.9];B[lq]BL[1788.66]
;W[jr]WL[1819.49]
(;B[go]BL[1779.62];W[nq]WL[1816.24];B[mq]BL[1775.21];W[np]WL[1813.62];B[lo]BL[1773.99]
;W[qq]WL[1812.52];B[qp]BL[1769.03];W[pp]WL[1811.29];B[qr]BL[1762.96];W[jn]WL[1806.92]
;B[lm]BL[1759.33];W[nn]WL[1793.45]C[Black got a weakness exploited here];B[pm]BL[1753.72]
;W[nl]WL[1790.33];B[lk]BL[1749.34];W[kn]WL[1776.67];B[ln]BL[1746.29];W[jk]WL[1773.85]
;B[jl]BL[1740.24];W[kl]WL[1769.71];B[km]BL[1736.39];W[jm]WL[1768.29];B[il]BL[1734.43]
;W[kk]WL[1767.11];B[nr]BL[1722.57];W[or]WL[1758.65];B[mr]BL[1709.37];W[oq]WL[1755.66]
;B[pr]BL[1699.65];W[os]WL[1747.3];B[ll]BL[1696.01];W[hm]WL[1735.37];B[kj]BL[1683.66]
;W[jj]WL[1725.4];B[ji]BL[1680.05];W[ki]WL[1714.96];B[lj]BL[1676.47];W[hk]WL[1699.16]
;B[ik]BL[1664.29];W[ij]WL[1696.52];B[hj]BL[1663.22];W[ii]WL[1695.22];B[hl]BL[1658.35]
;W[gl]WL[1683.05];B[gk]BL[1656.79];W[im]WL[1682.03];B[hk]BL[1654.8];W[ih]WL[1667.96]
;B[fl]BL[1651.18];W[gm]WL[1660.18];B[ek]BL[1648.4];W[fm]WL[1654.78];B[ok]BL[1642.95]
;W[nk]WL[1652.68];B[nj]BL[1640.95];W[ol]WL[1650.54];B[pl]BL[1634.38];W[oj]WL[1648.51]
;B[pk]BL[1631.2];W[mj]WL[1647.51];B[ni]BL[1627.63];W[mi]WL[1640.44];B[li]BL[1623.58]
;W[nh]WL[1620.87];B[mk]BL[1620.29];W[oi]WL[1618.45];B[on]BL[1617.85];W[oo]WL[1601.34]
;B[nm]BL[1606.97];W[om]WL[1599.09]C[After the kill no chance for black anymore.]
;B[mm]BL[1604.63];W[pn]WL[1597.7];B[qn]BL[1600.75];W[qk]WL[1582.27];B[gf]BL[1589.06]
;W[fd]WL[1558.49];B[gg]BL[1583.07];W[kh]WL[1550.59];B[bn]BL[1577.99];W[bo]WL[1545.64]
;B[bm]BL[1575.28];W[cl]WL[1544.63];B[bl]BL[1573.72];W[ck]WL[1543.14];B[bk]BL[1571.62]
;W[el]WL[1524.72];B[fk]BL[1562.28];W[rr]WL[1509.59];B[rq]BL[1549.6];W[qs]WL[1507.52]
;B[sr]BL[1543.21];W[rs]WL[1506.33];B[rl]BL[1541.41];W[rk]WL[1502.77];B[ql]BL[1539.33]
;W[cj]WL[1489.08];B[bj]BL[1531.61];W[di]WL[1484.22];B[ci]BL[1523.16];W[dj]WL[1451.75]
;B[dh]BL[1507.73];W[hb]WL[1449.41];B[ja]BL[1503.72]C[hellsflame [3k\]\: um...
hellsflame [3k\]\: f11?
]
;W[fp]WL[1413.95];B[gp]BL[1497.32];W[dr]WL[1407.49];B[dq]BL[1494.18];W[eq]WL[1406.49]
;B[fq]BL[1489.28];W[ep]WL[1404.71];B[cr]BL[1488.12]C[hellsflame [3k\]\: ah... e11 will threaten capture nevermind
]
;W[fi]WL[1387.55];B[ei]BL[1473.11];W[ej]WL[1377.55];B[fj]BL[1471.05];W[dl]WL[1368.84]
;B[gi]BL[1465.96];W[hr]WL[1337.76];B[gr]BL[1456.04];W[re]WL[1311.24];B[sc]BL[1447.45]
;W[rd]WL[1304.99];B[bc]BL[1443.52];W[hc]WL[1302.66];B[ka]BL[1438.26];W[bb]WL[1301.71]
;B[ab]BL[1435.4];W[ba]WL[1299.89];B[sk]BL[1433.94];W[rj]WL[1293.63];B[sj]BL[1430.1]
;W[si]WL[1292.84];B[sl]BL[1428.37];W[ri]WL[1292.24];B[ha]BL[1425.97];W[fb]WL[1289.8]
;B[fa]BL[1422.29];W[ea]WL[1287.84];B[ga]BL[1418.47];W[gb]WL[1287];B[ia]BL[1417.55]
;W[ar]WL[1239.85];B[bp]BL[1407.34];W[ap]WL[1238.03];B[br]BL[1402.15];W[cp]WL[1225.53]
;B[bq]BL[1398.94];W[aq]WL[1223.43];B[fn]BL[1373.86];W[fo]WL[1217.15];B[iq]BL[1370.21]
;W[jq]WL[1209.33];B[ir]BL[1365.23];W[ip]WL[1196.35];B[hq]BL[1361];W[ps]WL[1192.59]
;B[qq]BL[1356.68];W[ho]WL[1170.75];B[js]BL[1346.79];W[kr]WL[1146.74];B[ks]BL[1342.2]
;W[ls]WL[1146.13];B[is]BL[1339.57];W[lr]WL[1145.46];B[gn]BL[1332.9];W[nf]WL[1137.82]
;B[ko]BL[1326.51];W[hn]WL[1125.44];B[ac]BL[1309.62];W[bs]WL[1105.81];B[ds]BL[1304.12]
;W[po]WL[1097.4];B[da]BL[1299.2];W[eb]WL[1091.56];B[cb]BL[1297.53];W[db]WL[1090.21]
;B[fg]BL[1285.48];W[sd]WL[1083.1];B[sb]BL[1282.18];W[gh]WL[1080.79];B[fh]BL[1279.84]
;W[fe]WL[1076.36];B[an]BL[1269.77];W[ao]WL[1073.43];B[sq]BL[1267.54];W[ne]WL[1070.59]
;B[hg]BL[1255.92];W[he]WL[1064.48];B[cs]BL[1247.52];W[as]WL[1059.26];B[hp]BL[1241.11]
;W[em]WL[1050.26];B[aa]BL[1236.33];W[ca]WL[1047.92];B[hi]BL[1228.73];W[dk]WL[1037.77]
;B[]BL[1228.72];W[]WL[1037.77]TB[sa][rm][ma][oa][pa][qa][ra][jb][kb][mb][nb][kc]
[lc][nc][ad][bd][ld][ae][af][bf][df][ag][bg][cg][dg][ah][bh][ai][bi][fi][aj][gj]
[ak][al][am][qm][sm][rn][sn][ro][so][rp][sp][dr][fr][hr][es][fs][gs][hs]TW[do][eo]
[io][jo][ko][lo][mo][no][kp][sf][mp][op][kq][lq][mq][mr][nr][ms][ns][da][cb][ec]
[fc][gc][lp][gd][qd][oe][qe][se][kf][of][rf][ng][og][pg][qg][rg][sg][jh][lh][mh]
[oh][ph][qh][rh][sh][ji][li][ni][pi][qi][kj][lj][mm][nj][qj][lk][mk][ll][ml][dm]
[km][lm][nm][in][ln][mn][on])
(;B[lo]C[Box shape on this side?
Next r8 for black?]))
(;B[jq]C[As white is quite alive on both sides of the cutting stones i'd tenuki.]))
(;W[kb];B[la];W[lb];B[ic];W[qf]))
(;W[jd];B[ke];W[qf];B[kd];W[kc];B[jc];W[jb];B[ic];W[ib];B[hc];W[oa];B[pb];W[hb]
;B[gc];W[fc];B[gb];W[re];B[kb];W[lb];B[ka]C[Still no good result for white.]))
(;W[qe];B[mb];W[ne];B[md]C[This joseki will be bad for white.]))
(;W[nd]C[What about approaching with a two space kakari? An effective pincer seems not possible right now.]))
(;W[fc];B[cc];W[cb];B[cd];W[eb];B[cg];W[ch];B[dh]C[Modern joseki. 21st century openings by Kim Sung-rae 8dan professional]))
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